tbh the diamond industry has wrought such horrors relative to the length of time the tradition's been in place that even lab stones or other clear rocks seem bad as an engagement ring.

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borderline discoursey 

this is kind of like the vegan argument against fake fur as conferring validity/acceptability to real fur, except unlike that whole kettle of fish, I believe it is correct

@maya Especially since the tradition owes its existence to the diamond industry.

@ghost_bird yeah there are a lot of traditions that derive their meaning from, like, centuries of practice that are potentially valuable separately from contingent/problematic origins... but w/diamond rings we're talking what, 5, 6 generations max?

@maya It’s cool. I hardly ever post without mangling at least one important word or phrase.

😬🧷: microblogging has neither the social immediacy of chat nor the considered aspect of email. while I still accept responsibility for the impact of what I write, until this crap gets an edit button, it may not ever be what I *meant*.

pondering a Star Wars Extended Universe canon hierarchy for my Content

@flancian my ideal would probably be editable with a visible audit trail. for platforms where you can boost/RT/reblog, it's really rough to have corrections separate from an original post that can circulate independently

@maya yes, I fully agree. This is why in the Agora I'm trying to have first class support for linking and optionally importing arbitrary resources.

I think [[ctzn]] had this right, with a long form essay optionally associated to each micropost. I was saddened to see it be deprioritized, although I understand the author.

@maya @flancian just ran across your discussion and thought I’d chime in that this is being merged into mastodon rn :)

@liaizon @maya very nice! Delete & redraft already put Mastodon ahead of Twitter w.r.t. usability when writing, proper editing with history puts Mastodon miles ahead.

^ edit function is coming to Mastodon, which already had delete & redraft, making it better than @Twitter in writing experience

@maya 130 years since the De Beers cartel and about 75 since the big marketing push on diamond engagement rings... though the tradition was there already.

@ghost_bird btw I was just Googling this and do you have a source on the tradition pre-De Beers? that's not me challenging you, it's just because I can't find anybody citing stuff that isn't industry affiliated for, like, specifically diamond engagement rings as a Thing

@maya No, no source - just a note in that article on the “diamonds are forever” campaign that it existed before the marketing push.

@maya Let me know what you find if you do. I’d be interested.

@ghost_bird @maya I seem to recall reading way back there DeBeers was able to build the whole engagement ring is diamonds thing on prior traditions that weren’t necessarily diamonds. That was the sell job. Probably strengthened it while they were making it diamond specific so that you weren’t getting engaged without that ring.

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